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8th-Jul-2010 12:09 pm
Gillard is apparently going with the filter plan. Dumb dumb dumb dumb fucking dumb.

And we're back to "its for child porn" - I am sure that Conroy will be back on television LYING to us some more soon.

8th-Jul-2010 02:36 am (UTC)
Red-head clowns to the left of me, liars to the right...

I would like to think that she's pandering to the religious reich until the election. But I'm not hopeful.
8th-Jul-2010 03:14 am (UTC)
I really want to set them both on fire.
8th-Jul-2010 04:57 am (UTC)
She's a politician. Like all politicians, she's owned (and possibly pwned) by some special interest(s) or other. Follow the money :-(

I wish I could make sense of the whole THINK OF THE CHILDREEEEENNNNN!!! (im)moral panic thing. But despite years and years of studying the apelings, I still don't get it. Oh, and we already have an internet filter that works very well. It's called 'parents'. If only more families would turn that filter on themselves, the rest of us could get on with our lives.

Pass the napalm :-S
8th-Jul-2010 05:00 am (UTC)
The 'money' here appears to be socially conservative voters. I just wonder about the logic of burning all of the votes of people who are against it to steal some votes from the liberals.

I suspect the analysis is "the people against it are going to end up voting for us anyway, even just by preference cascade, and every one we can steal from the liberal is money in the pocket".

A friend described Labor and Liberal as the right wing and religious right wing parties today. Some truth in that.
8th-Jul-2010 05:04 am (UTC)
~nods~ Yerss, lurkutus has given me the short course on Aussie politics. It's...depressing o_O

I'd like to lay my hands on a current demographic breakdown of your population by age. Is it a case of the old farts being the majority? Or are the old farts managing to also create young farts? The thought of under-40s with Ahh Murkan-style political and religious infections is too hurlmaking to bear.
8th-Jul-2010 05:06 am (UTC)
"Least worst" system. It has its good sides - preferences at least give a chance for new parties to form and expand.

Try the www.abs.gov.au - might be able to get it.

Ignorance seems to be the major problem at the moment, and apathy, carefully drilled into people.
8th-Jul-2010 05:17 am (UTC)
Thx, will do. Of course I do know that there's no truly good system of government and no truly good system of voting. Mostly because HomSap evolved to live in small groups that are relatively self-correcting and relatively consensus-prone.

I've said this over and over down the years, and possibly even to you in Mister Shifty's LJ: if I had the answers, I'd be out there giving them away selling them very cheaply. But I don't, so I growl a lot and roll my eyes a lot and live in the cracks and do my level best to avoid all 'news' and current events, apart from when someone I know makes a post about them in LJ :P

But of course the answer is simple - it's just not practical. Cull, cull, cull. Kill your parents, if they haven't grown up to become rational beings yet. Kill the robber barons. Kill the politicians. Kill the ivory-tower academics. Kill the philosophers who theorise without living in the world they're theorising about. Burn the churches. Give fundies of all flavours one chance to recant, and kill them if they don't. And most of all, kill those creatures that drive Big Media. Kill them a lot. And then scatter their ashes far away from real humans, and sow the ground with salt.

See? Simple. Just not practical :-(

8th-Jul-2010 09:37 am (UTC)
elder_godess, your solution is not fair. Why do fundies get a second chance and everyone else not? ;)
8th-Jul-2010 11:59 am (UTC)
Because they're mostly fools who got duped into evil, and the others manufactured their evil with far less - if any - assistance? >:P
8th-Jul-2010 02:47 pm (UTC)
Then there are the barely-humans who insist "If it protects even one child from abuse we must do it." Your cull proposal reminds me what I want to say to them:

"If we killed all the adults, that would prevent a great deal of child abuse. Now... you're an adult. Would you like to admit your assertion was wrong?"

8th-Jul-2010 03:18 pm (UTC)
Well said. Or there's always the shorter version:

'Children. The ultimate renewable resource!'
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